Since starting bitework with tug, my 6-1/2 month old GSD has developed the habit of jumping up on us when he wants something we have or during greetings. We've been pushing him off and using the command "off" and simply turning our back to him to get him back down on 4 legs. I haven't done any corrections firmer than that because I don't know of the consequences that will effect his PPD training. I've emailed my trainer letting him know ahead of our scheduled session next week but was wondering what the consenses is here.
While ignorant, my thinking is that if I sternly correct this jumping on people thing, it would have a negative effect on his willingness to physically engage the helper/decoy while going after his prize. I know this behavior is unacceptable and needs to be corrected, I just don't know to what extreme to take it without effecting his protection training, or if correcting him sternly would effect his training at all.
teaching a dog good manners will not effect his ppd work
the way a dog respect you and your environment will not effect your dogs working ability
in fact this action is one of dominance and should be corrected before he shows handler aggression
squeeze both paws when they come up until he makes a sound that he is in discomfort and he will soon learn not to jump up
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Not necessarily a sign of dominance but definitely a sign of bad manners. Correct the dog with just sufficient force to make it stop the behavior. It will not affect protection training done right.
I don't think the dog recognizes that he's displaying bad manners. My suspicion is that he's simply following dog instinct to greet face to face. I agree that when we have something he wants or he has raised curiosity, he's jumping up out of dominance. It's really that behavior that worries me the most and I WILL "nip it at the bud" right away. Thank you for the correction tip.
As I mentioned before, I'm fairly new to this and spend most of my spare time reading on the subject. I just don't have application experience. One of the reasons I call this site home is because of the experience level of it's participants.
The idea that this is a dominance based behavior is an old one and no longer is consider correct. It is a dog seeing attention and contact. Now whilst with me and my dogs I turn my back on the dog but when it comes to strangers I correct it as strangers, friends etc wont turn their back on the dog correctly and the dog certainly wont alter its behavior without learning it is ineffective at some level so then I add a consequence for the behavior.
squeeze both paws when they come up until he makes a sound that he is in discomfort and he will soon learn not to jump up
"but i guess its easier to beat a dog than read a book"
"understanding an animals motivations and instincts can be an invaluable asset when training a dog, working with these drives and not against them can be the best way to build trust and a real bond with a dog
i wish you all the best with your alternative methods"
maybe he thinks squeezing a dogs paws when it jumps up is a cruel correction, i picked that particular method up from a leerburg dvd, so if it disturbs you T. take it up with him
im sure you experience and knowledge makes his 30+ years look like a drop in the bucket
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Whose honest heart is still his master's own
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